LWDW 357: PineTab 2 and XFCE 4.18

XFCE 4.18 is out! OBS adds support for WebRTC, Pine64 talks about the PineTab 2, and no Raspi 5 in 2023.


00:00 Intro
01:27 Holiday schedule
06:17 XFCE 4.18 is here!
11:43 Pine64 Tab 2
19:38 WebRTC in OBS
34:08 No Pi 5 in 2023

XFCE 4.18


  • After almost two years of work Xfce 4.18 is ready for production. 
  • XFCE updates can be hard to spot since the team designs for functionality, not design for the sake of design.  
  • The big OMG bit for 4.18 is updates to Thunar. 
  • It’s now possible to enable an image preview sidebar.
  • This is kinda neat if you don’t want to do the zoom all method. 
  • There is a newly editable toolbar that lets you add and reorder toolbar icons based on your needs. 
  • Thunar 4.18 includes recursive search.
  • It is now possible to undo basic file operations and to redo them. 
  • Undo and Redo can be used for ‘move’, ‘rename’, ‘trash’, ‘link’ and ‘create’ operations. 
  • Setting default applications no longer takes eleventy steps! 
  • I ran into that nightmare when Chromium decided to take over all images. 
  • The compositor now supports adaptive vsync with GLX.
  • If you’re using Debian testing you can install it right now. 
  • Oh sweet!  One of my favorite updates is simple but solves an annoying problem, you can now change the font style and size in the Xfce clock applet!
  • There are four clock layouts:   date only, time only, date and time & time and date.
  • The Xfce4 Panel length is now configured in pixels rather than percentages, as before.
  • There is a new “keep panel above windows” option.
    • This allows maximised app windows to fill the area behind the panel rather than maximise its bottom or top edge to sit flush against it.
  • Thunar has a new bookmark menu in the sidebar. 
  • And has a new split view option for easily dragging and dropping.



  • The fine folks at Pine64 are working on a new open source tablet estimated to be available after the Chinese New Year, and priced extremely affordable like their other Pine64 hardware.
  • The PineTab2 is going to be much more powerful than the original PineTab, which suffered from the hardware shortages from the pandemic.
  • These are the current specs, but the PineTab2 is still experimental and these specs may change:
    • It features the RK3566, a modern mid-range quad-core Cortex-A55 processor that integrates a Mali-G52 MP2 GPU and supports up-to 8GB of RAM.
    • A tempered glass 10’1 IPS screen with modern and reasonably thin bezels.
    • The PineTab2 has two USB-C ports, one of which is USB 3.0 and the other is intended for charging, but also has USB 2.0 speeds.
    • Micro HDMI port for video output.
    • A front-facing 2MPx camera and a rear-facing 5MPx one.
    • It has a metal chassis that is very sturdy while also being easy to disassemble for upgrades, maintenance and repair.
    • To make the device end-user serviceable Pine64 has made the PineTab2’s guts modular.
    • Including the camera modules, the daughter-board, the battery and USB keyboard connector can all be replaced in under 5 minutes.
  • And like the original PineTab, the PineTab2 will have a keyboard, which doubles up as a protective carry cover.
  • But for the PineTab2 the keyboard WILL be included by default.
  • If there is a Linux OS that is both convergent and mobile and goes to desktop mode when you open up the keyboard case, this could be a game changer.
  • And it would sure be nice to do show notes on!
  • Dev units available soon.
  • 4/8 GB options. 
  • No mention of screen resolution. 
  • Prototypes will be available at FOSDEM early next year. 
  • The original PineTab’s death was, in some part, a choice to allocate resources to secure PinePhone’s availability throughout late 2020 and early 2021.



  • It might not look like it now but this is going to be huge for streamers. 
  • Yeah, most people don’t want to spend the time hacking up their own Jitsi server. 
  • WebRTC OBS users could share their video without needing a video server over p2p. 
  • This means low latency collaboration with no backend required. 
  • WebRTC is flexible in what codecs it supports so users could use H265 and AV1.
  • Sub second latency. 
  • Right now the plugin only supports output so you could use it as an alternative to RTMP if your service supports it. 
  • This is under heavy development but I can see some fun uses for it.
  • In the future you could send and receive AV directly between hosts removing the need for external applications or services. 
  • Or stream to multiple services. 
  • This has currently been tested on Linux and Mac with locally run broadcast-box as well as remotely hosted WHIP endpoints.
  • This is cool: OBS could experiment with broadcasting multiple scenes at once, and viewers could then switch between scenes or different views in the same game.
  • It integrates a lot of the features used in vdo.ninja for OBS that I use every week for podcasting. 

Slice of Pi

Xmas Pi


  • Bad news for 2023.

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